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2.
A second major issue is that in Salt Lake County - It is FLAT OUT
ILLEGAL in any way, shape, or form, to collect grease without a
grease handler's permit. This permit is somewhat expensive but requires
a few things (such as liability insurance and/or a bond) that are common
with businesses but not with individuals. This is also punishable
with a Class B misdemeanor and possibly thousands in
fines. That said, at least one homebrewer in SL County
has been able to successfully get this permit but the question is whether
it is worth it.
Therefore
UBC officially recommends that under no circumstances is anyone in Salt
Lake County to collect oil and in fact we recommend contacting these collection
companies directly. See lower in this page for this contact info.
3.
This is our final point. Grease, in no way, shape, or form, is "garbage"
or "free" or anything remotely similar. It is a real commodity that
is traded on the Chicago Commodities exchange. When processed, each
of the renderers gets about $1.29 (Jan 2006) a gallon for this. This
means if you steal 50 gallons of grease, you are directly stealing $70
in proffitt from the company who's barrell you are removing grease from.
This means that those of you who have stolen hundreds of gallons have literally
stolen hundreds, if not thousands of dollars directly from these companies
and again this is not fair.
If
you wish to pursue the concept of doing grease collection legally and fairly,
please keep reading...
SHORT
TERM SOLUTIONS:
In
the short term, UBC will be working with the grease collection agencies
to try to come up with a solution that will allow people in Salt Lake County
to purchase oil directly from these renderers once we come over a few hurdles.
They are:
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Coming
up with indemnification [removal of liability] contracts for the grease
renderers. The idea is "if you blow yourself up making fuel" then
it is not their fault [as it should not be.]
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Coming
up with a reasonable price structure for home brewers as very few people
are willing to spend $1.29 a gallon for grease.
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At this
time, as far as we know, Salt Lake County is the only county with these
laws. That said is it not cool in any way to, again, steal grease
from the barrel of one of these companies. If you wish to setup your
own accounts, that is fine but there are some major issues to this as well
-- read below.
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We are
thinking of establishing the requirements for a grease hauler's permit
under UBC for our members but this is just an idea at this point and will
require these steps be done in a safe, constructive and friendly manner
with the grease collection companies. Remember these companies are
our allies for biodiesel in Utah especially in the long term. In
a few years, bio-dieselers could be some of their best customers and vice
versa.
LONG
TERM SOLUTIONS:
The
long term solution that UBC envisions is largely dependent on UBC's vision
of a "biodiesel central" that we hope to have setup somewhere in the Salt
Lake area before 2007 if we are lucky. Our goal is to have all grease,
chemicals, and even processors that members can use, in place. We
will sell the grease dirt cheap, something like $.25 - $.50 a gallon if
we are lucky, so it is not only cheap but by far the best and easiest way
to get grease as well. If you interested in helping with this long
term vision, again, contact us with your
interest and this will be a neat and our most challenging task to date
as an organization.
THOUGHTS
ON COLLECTION GREASE:
UBC
has also found that independent home brewers are also, for the most part,
"not very good grease collectors." We recommend that individuals
not try to setup accounts with restaurants for the following reasons:
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We find
most early biodiesel enthusiasts are "hot to trot" in the beginning and
have big ideas but when the reality of collection grease (by far the most
labor intensive, nasty, and time consuming aspect of biodiesel home brewing)
sets in, two or three months down the road, the restaurant has a backlog
of grease and they are upset. This means you are also giving the biodiesel
homebrewer a bad name!
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If you
go on vacation, are busy, or whatever other reason and cannot take the
grease. These restaurants get angry and it is a commitment you must
be dedicated to - like feeding a dog or something like that - only monthly.
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Winter
- collecting grease in winter sucks and is almost impossible when really
cold if the barrel is outside.
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In the
past, some have recommended that some collectors [not in Salt Lake County]
place their barrels there "first" and have them fill the grease collector's
barrels second. This only slightly works as well as a barrel weighs
upwards of 400 lbs, again you can't always get to it, and a number of other
issues. Also this still pisses off the grease collectors so please
keep this all in mind.
So
-- These ARE THE REALITIES of collecting grease....
If
you are still thinking of collecting grease, then please read the following
info in early 2005. Below are the bare minimum thoughts if you are
still thinking of collecting grease. Feel free to contact
me if you have any questions about any of this:
Andre
Shoumatoff
Director,
Utah Biodiesel Cooperative
Be
prepared before you go visit a restaraunt. You typically will want to talk
with the "person in charge" or the manager there. Come prepared with literature
on Biodiesel. Leave a brochure and then indicate that you'll stop by again
to discuss it with them. Try to anticipate as many questions as you can
and be prepared with answers. Remember, Biodiesel is fairly new and not
many people will have heard of it.
Typically,
the slowest time in most restaraunts is between 2PM and 4PM. People have
already had lunch and aren't quite coming in for dinner yet. This is the
slowest, and best opportune time, to meet with a manager.
Questions
to be prepared for:
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1- What
will you be using it for?
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2- Why
do you want MY oil?
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3- If
I give it to you, can you guarantee consistency in picking it up?
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4- Is
there a possible tax write-off?
BIG
NOTE:
If
you DO collect from a restaraunt, be sure not to leave a mess.
They're giving you their oil for free, if you make a mess, you can expect
to be turned away next time.
When
and be clear that you are NOT representaive of Utah Biodiesel Cooperative
in any way and that you are your own person. Please be polite, professional
and courteous. The restaraunt business in Utah is a tight-knit group. One
bad experience can blow it for the rest of us...
If
you run into a big problem, you can always call the people that pick it
up from the restaraunts and buy it from them:
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Renegade
Oil
1141
S 3200 West
SALT
LAKE CITY, UT 84104 - 4562
(801)
973-7912
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Bonneville
Livestock Inc
9300
N 10420 West
LEHI,
UT 84043
(801)
768-4491
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Kuhni
John Sons
2700
S Kuhni Rd
PROVO,
UT 84606 - 6270
(801)
373-7600
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Cache
Valley By Products
2860
W 8600 N
AMALGA,
UT
(435)
563-5807
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